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Post  KnifeytheWanderer on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:02 pm

Because I did feel Knifey's actions today were borderline acceptable for his character alignment and because it was going to bug the crap out of me until I did it, I wrote a...thing?

Like I guess it could be a journal but I honestly think Knifey is more the kind to write up only little bits of stuff and do lots of silly drawings instead -hence, why I want to make a Knifey picture journal if I stop being lazy-.

But I guess this is almost like...I dunno, sort of like a confession journal one off type thing. sdkjgh I wouldn't write a lot like this because a) my writing isn't that great, b) it's not really something Knifey would do often, and c) it's all sort of blargh and stuff...really.

Anyway, posting it here because if anyone feels like reading it, they can? (but yeah you can totally ignore it if you want to because it's just character developing stuff I guess?) It's a look into his darker thoughts I suppose...Morally I feel like I poked at something difficult. The difference between mindful and mindless creatures, freedom and domestication/training, among other things...but all of it focused on someone stuck in a sort of magical medieval setting.

This preword thing is longer than the bloody confessional thing sdgkhsgj whoops~

Any grammatical or spelling errors are the fault of Knifey because I say so and because I'm too lazy to go and fix it...

Dated- Return from the Owlbear Hunt

At this current point in time, I am at a loss for my thoughts and feelings. They scramble about like children, some offering words of sweetness, and others, only malice. But I don't feel like being poetic, as my talent lies in art and not words.

Today several of my fellows and I have returned from a quest in which we hunted and captured owlbears. Creatures, or perhaps monsters, capable of great aggression and ferocity willing to kill and devour anything that so much as crosses its line of sight. They are not beasts I would consider at all friendly, and are in fact rather barbaric. However, after the events of the past few days, I must reconsider my own stance.

I live to feel as much joy as I can, and to discover the ways and wonders of the world, but I also live to prevent as much suffering as possible. To bear the burdens of others on my back and help drag them from the gutters of the world is something I have always willed to do. By my own moral code, torture and slavery are some of the worst crimes any mindful creature can commit. But then, where does that code end? At what point does slavery become domestication? At what point does attacking to protect others cross the line into coarse brutality? Huh, I say I am not a poet, and yet I yammer. Speaking on and on but...

The hunt does not offend me. Though both my Deity Ilmater and the exarch Lliira are not fond of the use of swords and weapons, or perhaps of fighting in general, there are few others ways in which I can protect others. And as I said, the hunt does not offend. When done properly, it can provide food and fur, sustenance and protection, and ends the prey's life quickly. One does not torture an animal for their own satisfaction, for their own sick purposes. Thus, I do not feel guilt for the killing of adult owlbears. They are wild beasts that slaughter and kill with aggression. While this is not entirely a fault, simply part of their design, their nature, it is still wild, almost senseless killing that I would defend people from. Their meat can feed us, and if not us, then others, and their furs have great uses. That, and my fellows and I must find coin in this world somehow, and even if we cannot put the fur to use, others may...

The slaying of the adult owlbears does not make me feel any guilt beyond that of killing. All killing bears some guilt for me, for if I were to have my way, perhaps no creature would need to kill. Yet killing does occur and I cannot escape it, even more so if I desire to protect. And some things, may it be the cruelty of mindful creatures or the wild rage of beasts, will always hurt others, and so I must eliminate them. It does not bring me joy, but it is something I feel I must do...

Yet the true moral complication does not involve the adult owlbears, but their young. Ivelliohn mentioned that the creatures fetched a high price, and could be trained to guard and protect, and at the time I thought, would it not be better for them to be tamed? While I understand that not all creatures are treated with care whilst in such a process, the man at the menagerie took great care of his animals, and would he perhaps not want such creatures? The young owlbears, if tamed, could not only protect but also live comfortable lives, fed and sheltered well if given to a responsible owner.

While I am against slavery, the domestication of animals is not what I would consider such a thing. However, abuse is abuse, and even those creatures that are mindless should not be treated so cruelly. Set to work and to protect, to be tamed...while a free life is wonderful and one of my few desires, sometimes it is better and safer for all if such wild and mindlessly aggressive creatures were tamed, taught to protect...

At first, I thought it was good. And still, I think it to be within the realms of good. The owlbear young will, with hope, be treated well by the man at the menagerie, and trained and sold into good hands that will not abuse them or their powers...

Yet it was the transportation of the beasts that made me ill. Our plan was ill thought out. We killed the two cubs' mother, and I dealt the final blow, yet to capture these creatures we were forced to not kill, but knock unconscious. The first time, though it bothered me to extend their pain, I could justify it. We were sending them to, hopefully, live better. Not shackled by the chains of wild madness and killing, not destined to be hunted like their elders, but to live well at the hands of others. Perhaps it is not the freest life, the life which I desire...but I am not a mindless creature. Unless I were to fall prey to my own trauma and instincts, I will never be truly mindless. I will not kill or harm for no good reason. To knock the two creatures out, just to help transport them to perhaps a safer place...at first, it only upset me a little.

But as said, our plan was ill thought out. None in our present company knew any spells to keep the creature subdued. There was no way to keep the creatures unconscious without continuing to hit them. The thought made me ill, but for the sake of something better...but no, could I ever be sure their lives would have been better? What if they were abused, mistreated? They could still be.

At least we were not required to drag them all the way, for I do not think I could have. Even with the more comfortable cart to let them lie in as we transported them, every time it was my hand that was required to send them back into their pained rest, I felt ill. Even when it was not my hand, I felt guilt. On one of the nights I was forced to watch them alone, I almost gave into the desire to let them go free. In those hours of the night with my mind and their pleading eyes, I felt my hands itch toward the ropes, to unbind them, to let them go. Freedom is what I have always wanted, why should they not go free too?

It was my loyalty to my group that stayed my hand, and perhaps the knowledge that though we both have feelings, the owlbear and the xeph are of two very different minds. Xeph are mindful creatures. The Owlbear, mindless. Where I would stay my hand, this creature would simply kill. But their eyes haunt me and the guilt I still feel for them plagues me. I can perhaps live with things while they are in the hands of the menagerie man. He was good, and though he put them in cages, they were not ill-shaped or sized, nor would the creatures be forced into them once trained.

Yet cages, beatings, so many horrible things. Had I been able to put these creatures to sleep, I would have. As they were moved, to only slumber, that would have been so much better. But I cannot. For all I speak of peace and joy and freedom and unity, my powers are only to kill. I do not raise my sword senselessly, but it is a weapon, to defend and to slay. It is a beautiful thing, to be used in dance and art as well, but it was a weapon second, and it is my own mind first.

I know owlbears are not good creatures. They cannot truly be judged on the mindful scale of good and evil, for they only know instinct...but their instinct makes them kill, and kill so much. Ivelliohn often mentions how mindlessly they would rampage and attack the caravans he once escorted. He does not tell me much of his past, but this part he has shared with me. They caused much pain and suffering....

but these ones....they cannot be held responsible for the actions of others...yet can a mindless beast truly be held accountable for its actions?

I pray to Ilmater I have done nothing irreparably wrong. I will hope that those owlbears are trained and treated well, and though some part of me still feels ill at the thought of stopping any creature from being free, at the same time, these creatures would kill so mindlessly...

Mindless killing, mindless harm? Is that what I have done today? I do not feel it mindless, but that does not mean I feel much better for it.

If I have done a true wrong, if I have caused so much cruel and unnecessary suffering, then may Ilmater see it fit to pour the burdens of many others upon me, though I will seek to ease their burdens without his hand.

I will continue to seek solace and understanding of my own actions within the temple of Ilmater. I do not believe I would have hunted the owlbears alone, but my allies are not responsible for my actions. They are my friends, they are not evil. We are not evil.

But perhaps our actions with the owlbears were poorly thought out and poorly performed, and my only hope is that no mindful or mindless being beyond myself suffers anymore for our actions this day.

For me, though I shall continue to smile, my heart will be plagued by my actions. The others, of course, need not truly know. Perhaps I will confide in Ivelliohn. He does not know my history, but that does not mean he need not know my feelings...

yet again, my feelings are my own burden...

so yes, perhaps I shall simply continue to smile, and hope that those owlbears may live good lives...it is all I may do at this current...

(yes that's it, if you read it I'm sorry I wasted your time but this is the character history and development thread so I figure it's as good a place as any for this sort of baloney~)
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Re: Character Histories /dev/ etc///

Post  JohnTheRanger on Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:05 pm

From 'the Masters of the Wild':
"One final note about nonhuman rangers: All of them
can select human as a favored enemy, and they should
strongly consider doing so. Humans are the most frequently
encountered foe in almost every D&D game,
so favored enemy bonuses against them come into play
often. "

Phew! I may have a made a reasonable decision about my favoured enemy afterall! Now, lets find a way to integrate that into my backstory... I'll have to think about it some more.
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Elf and Half-Elf Relations

Post  JohnTheRanger on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:40 pm

From 'The Races of the Wild':
"Half-Elves: Elves look on half-elves as relatives who are
deserving of welcome in their communities. Many view
them with a touch of pity because their elf blood gives them
such promise, but their human blood condemns them to early
death. Others perceive in them a vibrancy and a zest for life
rarely seen in elves.
Given the elven penchant for individuality, it would be
incorrect to assume that all elves feel the same way about
anything. There are always some who have difficulty looking
past a half-elf’s heritage, seeing it as impure, inferior, or repugnant
depending on the circumstances of the child’s birth.
Even for those untroubled by a child’s non-elf parentage,
it can be difficult to deny the physical differences between
half-elf and elf children. On that basis alone, some elf adults
have difficulty hiding their disdain and pity for a child who
cannot compete with his peers—a heavy burden for a child
of any race to bear.
Beyond those considerations, elves refuse to categorize
half-elves, according each the respect as an individual that
would be the birthright of any full elf. In particular, elves
realize that some half-elves do not share their chaotic
viewpoint, though half-elves often understand it better than
members of other races do. For that reason, elves may find
half-elves to be valuable go-betweens in negotiations with
some lawful-aligned races."

Hurray! John can have had a positive relationship with the elven elements of his heritage!
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Re: Character Histories /dev/ etc///

Post  KnifeytheWanderer on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:56 pm

Milo 'Nesquik' Tosscobble wrote:Wow, Cas! you have put so much more effort into your character than me! if i was asked how tosscobble worshipped Yondalla i'd probably say "i dunno, pray maybe? or kill some orcs."

Ahahaha, I don't really think people need to come up with this sort of thing, and I still haven't decided Knifey's Craft(_____) things yet, but I dunno....

I just like this sort of stuff. I dunno, knowing more about the characters made them more real in the DnD movie in my head, which helps with art, and writing, which are both things I'd like to build my life on.

Plus it's just fun. Like it's nice knowing in my head that Knifey's the kind of guy who'd be the first to run over and eat something spicy or strange -like those spiders on a stick-, and possibly enjoy it. Whereas in my head some like Tharry would look at it in slight disgust -he might not, of course, this is just the current Tharry in my head, who will alter and change as more information about him comes forth-.

And just killing orcs is fine too, as that's kind of essential. I too should focus on killing them. It's something Knifey's supposed to be good at, after all.

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Re: Character Histories /dev/ etc///

Post  Luke Baily on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 am

Milo 'Nesquik' Tosscobble wrote:Wow, Cas! you have put so much more effort into your character than me! if i was asked how tosscobble worshipped Yondalla i'd probably say "i dunno, pray maybe? or kill some orcs."
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Nah, forget praying, Just Kill some orcs!
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Post  Milo 'Nesquik' Tosscobble on Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:00 am

Wow, Cas! you have put so much more effort into your character than me! if i was asked how tosscobble worshipped Yondalla i'd probably say "i dunno, pray maybe? or kill some orcs."
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Post  KnifeytheWanderer on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:27 pm

Okay, mostly irrelevant, but still fun to have information. This relates to Knifey's worship of the god Ilmater and the exarch Lliira.

Outside of the Forgotten Realms, I probably would have made Knifey non-religious simply because it is recorded that Xephs are less focused on religion and more so on unifying philosophies and the like. However, since the Forgotten Realms has a lot of religious stuff, I figured I'd organise stuff for Knifey.

While Knifey maintains that desire for unification (people can be unified in chaos and good after all) and peace, and is not overly religious, he does have specific methods of prayer for his worship of Ilmater. When he has time or feels it is appropriate, Knifey will take the black string that binds the lower half of his plait -the one with the two white marriage stones of his mother and father- and untie it. He will then use his mindblade to cut across the palm of his hand -right or left, he's not fussed- and then slide the rope through the wound, bathing it in red. He then ties the rope around his hands, in an imitation of the symbol of Ilmater -two hands entwined in red rope, I believe-, and prays -usually to lessen the suffering of others, to pledge that he will continue to aim to lessen this suffering, and sometimes about specific events related to suffering he has defeated or currently is trying to stop-. At the end of his prayers, he washes the rope, if he can, and then reties his plait -his hair is almost always plaited however, and thus usually stays plaited even without the rope in as it has been so tightly tied-, and then will usually wrap his hand in bandages until the wound has healed.

I do not know if there are specific methods of prayer required of Ilmater's worshippers, but as Knifey is not a cleric, and simply a traveller, I feel my made-up method for him is good. And yes, I know that Ilmater was originally a lawful good deity, and thus one Knifey probably shouldn't have originally worshipped, but as he is currently a lawful neutral deity, I think it's alright. (Also, we are allowed a little leeway anyway?)

As for his worship of Lliira, it is much more simple. He simply has to enjoy his life, constantly trying to smile and be happy, to bring joy and be free, travelling as he desires. If he sees a festival, he tries to attend, or if he sees some sort of dancing and singing occurring, he's always winning to go along with it. He constantly tries to fill his life with joy. When attending festivals, to show his joy for the exarch, he will often don a brighter coloured tunic or clothes than usual, and if possible, will adorn himself with any gems he can locate, and dance and sing the night away. Never does he partake in drink though, or in more intimate kinds of revelry, though he does not discourage others from it, and if it brings them joy, he will often encourage it, ahaha.

Once again, not entirely sure of how worship works in this realm, but this is how I can imagine dear Knifey going about all this religious stuff. More often than not though, it is not at the forefront of his mind, and he does still have a lot of that Xeph unifying and fun philosophy going on.

Of all the deities I have seen so far, I can definitely say that the one he would probably loath would be Loviatar, as not only is she both an enemy of Ilmater and Lliira, but she is also lawful evil and particularly horrid, and really, everything about her seems to be related to things Knifey himself hates.
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Post  Genisisect on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:55 pm

that's the idea
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Post  KnifeytheWanderer on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:36 pm

I like that idea, though I shall need to look up where Luscan is. However, as I believed the group was meeting in drips and drabs, I suppose we have to sort out who knows each other from when and where, then everyone gets together in Luscan, goes on some quests and the like, and then head off to Fareach.
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Post  Genisisect on Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:33 pm

As far as the group history is concerned I recon you should all have met up in Luscan, went on a quest or two and then decided to make the trip to Fareach in search of adventure. Having you guys new to Fareach will make the Role-playing easier as you could learn about the Town as your characters do.
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Post  KnifeytheWanderer on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:55 am

Although I admit we aren't the best role player's, surely i do a good enough job of hating on Lawless. I'm kind of slowly gathering a rough back-story for Milo Tosscobble, but eventually I'll do a semi-detailed thing, especially once I know how other charactors fit in (i.e. how i meet them along the way).

No offense was meant, dear Tosscobble, and you and Tharry do indeed have quite entertaining arguments.

Also, even I'm not good a roleplaying in person, I've spent many a time doing it online. It's actually generally easier online, because you don't have to look at people when you do it. (On the other hand, LARP sounds cool....)

As for group backstory, from what I've heard pretty much everyone is either coming from the north-west/west area. You come from Amn, Tharry comes from the Highwood, Ironheim comes from....somewhere around there, Dimble comes from Tethyr, Yvon comes from Waterdeep, Ivelliohn comes from near the Highwood, and the mysterious eighth player -who might end up being Ness- has no idea where they're come from.

Unfortunately, I come from the Shadow Rifts -you won't find them on the map-, and the Shaar, which is a great big bunch of grassland/wasteland/grassland bordering on desert. However, Ivelliohn and I have agreed that Knifey will meet up with him because both are travellers who have quite a bit of wanderlust, so it makes sense that while Knifey runs north and then west from Mulhorand that he eventually encounters the ranger.

Dimble, as a bard, will probably spend a lot of his time going up and down between Tethyr and the more northern locations, since I'm pretty sure he gets kicked out of there...

So yeah, all I know about group history is that it appears that Knifey and Ivelliohn will get to travel around together for a little while.

Also, I came up with names/concepts for Knifey's parents. Yaseeah Val -his mother-, and Manar Val -his father-. The names were completely made up with no reference to any sort of Xeph material, but they sound cool.
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Post  Genisisect on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:16 pm

There you go cas
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